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7700hq overclocking or performacne improvements

7700hq overclocking or performacne improvements

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IkBenHetBram
Senior Member
735
04-15-2021, 12:54 PM
#1
The 7700hq i7 with undervolt will perform better because lower heat causes less throttling. If I reach the heatsink and swap it for MX5 or liquid metal, I expect temperatures to drop by 5-20°C compared to other results. Going under volt would slightly change the CPU curve. I’m wondering if there’s a way to extend Intel’s turbo boost beyond its normal limits—like keeping two cores at max speed indefinitely until thermal caps are hit (unless it’s something like Prime95). In short, can this be done through some system modification?
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IkBenHetBram
04-15-2021, 12:54 PM #1

The 7700hq i7 with undervolt will perform better because lower heat causes less throttling. If I reach the heatsink and swap it for MX5 or liquid metal, I expect temperatures to drop by 5-20°C compared to other results. Going under volt would slightly change the CPU curve. I’m wondering if there’s a way to extend Intel’s turbo boost beyond its normal limits—like keeping two cores at max speed indefinitely until thermal caps are hit (unless it’s something like Prime95). In short, can this be done through some system modification?

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majorpain96
Junior Member
46
04-15-2021, 04:51 PM
#2
HQ CPUs do not support overclocking.
Turbo boost has both thermal and TDP restrictions. The CPU can surpass TDP limits only for a short duration (determined by the manufacturer).
These boundaries are generally not adjustable for non-K CPU models.
The 7700HQ will run smoothly at 3.5GHz across all cores.
If you achieve 4GHz on every core, it represents a 14% boost in speed, though the actual performance improvement would be smaller.
For those interested in adjusting CPU settings, consider getting
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majorpain96
04-15-2021, 04:51 PM #2

HQ CPUs do not support overclocking.
Turbo boost has both thermal and TDP restrictions. The CPU can surpass TDP limits only for a short duration (determined by the manufacturer).
These boundaries are generally not adjustable for non-K CPU models.
The 7700HQ will run smoothly at 3.5GHz across all cores.
If you achieve 4GHz on every core, it represents a 14% boost in speed, though the actual performance improvement would be smaller.
For those interested in adjusting CPU settings, consider getting

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Ametera
Member
62
04-17-2021, 12:20 AM
#3
Right, the K series pushes the price well beyond my budget limits. I’m not aiming for an overclock past the boost clock since I know it’s restricted there. However, I want the CPU to operate at its maximum speed for as long as possible. I think I can handle the temperatures so the CPU can run faster for extended periods. The spec defines a thermal design range to control power usage and battery life, among other factors. The battery isn’t my priority during tasks that demand more CPU power; as long as heat stays within limits, it should perform better. Given this, there should be a way to extend the boost clock duration beyond the current 96-second limit—maybe through a registry tweak, BIOS modification, or an OC program?
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Ametera
04-17-2021, 12:20 AM #3

Right, the K series pushes the price well beyond my budget limits. I’m not aiming for an overclock past the boost clock since I know it’s restricted there. However, I want the CPU to operate at its maximum speed for as long as possible. I think I can handle the temperatures so the CPU can run faster for extended periods. The spec defines a thermal design range to control power usage and battery life, among other factors. The battery isn’t my priority during tasks that demand more CPU power; as long as heat stays within limits, it should perform better. Given this, there should be a way to extend the boost clock duration beyond the current 96-second limit—maybe through a registry tweak, BIOS modification, or an OC program?

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MoosikFreak
Junior Member
4
04-17-2021, 03:12 AM
#4
The TDP limit applies not only to the thermals but mainly to power usage. The CPU must not exceed the power allowed by the BIOS settings. You might find this advice useful – check the CPU Performance Mode in BIOS.
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MoosikFreak
04-17-2021, 03:12 AM #4

The TDP limit applies not only to the thermals but mainly to power usage. The CPU must not exceed the power allowed by the BIOS settings. You might find this advice useful – check the CPU Performance Mode in BIOS.

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robodroidXV
Junior Member
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04-19-2021, 02:19 AM
#5
I’ll go through that, thanks. My previous gaming laptop was a Core 2 with an 8600, which I had a decent 30% overclocked. From July, it ran Deus Ex: HR at medium to high settings with 40 FPS, and I was quite satisfied. My current machine handled the heat sink well and got MX5’d for smooth performance on Eve Online at high settings with around 35 FPS (it’s a 6200u i5). My last desktop was an i7 860 at 5.1GHz. When I get this new laptop, it will likely become my main setup too, so I’m aiming to push its performance even further than specs allow—so it can work better as a home desktop and then shut down when on the move for longer battery life.
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robodroidXV
04-19-2021, 02:19 AM #5

I’ll go through that, thanks. My previous gaming laptop was a Core 2 with an 8600, which I had a decent 30% overclocked. From July, it ran Deus Ex: HR at medium to high settings with 40 FPS, and I was quite satisfied. My current machine handled the heat sink well and got MX5’d for smooth performance on Eve Online at high settings with around 35 FPS (it’s a 6200u i5). My last desktop was an i7 860 at 5.1GHz. When I get this new laptop, it will likely become my main setup too, so I’m aiming to push its performance even further than specs allow—so it can work better as a home desktop and then shut down when on the move for longer battery life.

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ReDeR_Games
Member
194
04-19-2021, 02:45 AM
#6
i went through those articles and found it really strange that a laptop manufacturer would design a product with X performance capabilities only to limit its output in a package. but I think the situation is similar to my truck, which comes with 240hp/420ft/lbs torque without any modifications—just software changes, I upgraded it to 420hp and 840ft/lbs torque. still, thinking about thermal temperatures near skin is important for any work computer or ultrabook, especially for systems with real intel or amd cards (those in the mid to high gaming tier). they should be built to reach 100% performance, and users, particularly gamers, should be able to exceed that target.

from what i read, this kind of feature is likely controlled by the bios, so someone must be able to modify it to bypass throttling. but i’m curious if powerspec systems face similar throttling issues with the same cpu, or if it’s just a dell problem.
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ReDeR_Games
04-19-2021, 02:45 AM #6

i went through those articles and found it really strange that a laptop manufacturer would design a product with X performance capabilities only to limit its output in a package. but I think the situation is similar to my truck, which comes with 240hp/420ft/lbs torque without any modifications—just software changes, I upgraded it to 420hp and 840ft/lbs torque. still, thinking about thermal temperatures near skin is important for any work computer or ultrabook, especially for systems with real intel or amd cards (those in the mid to high gaming tier). they should be built to reach 100% performance, and users, particularly gamers, should be able to exceed that target.

from what i read, this kind of feature is likely controlled by the bios, so someone must be able to modify it to bypass throttling. but i’m curious if powerspec systems face similar throttling issues with the same cpu, or if it’s just a dell problem.

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Soobie
Member
51
04-20-2021, 12:34 AM
#7
Well, the promised spec is the base clock. Boost clock is an extra feature. Manufacturers are cautious since they don't fully understand the conditions the laptop will face. Maybe the room temperature is around 45°C. The same applies to car engines—they must meet fuel efficiency and emissions rules while keeping costs low. Who said you can rely on your gearbox and transmission parts to handle such power? Who assured you your engine can endure this kind of performance? You might have just reduced the lifespan of your truck significantly.
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Soobie
04-20-2021, 12:34 AM #7

Well, the promised spec is the base clock. Boost clock is an extra feature. Manufacturers are cautious since they don't fully understand the conditions the laptop will face. Maybe the room temperature is around 45°C. The same applies to car engines—they must meet fuel efficiency and emissions rules while keeping costs low. Who said you can rely on your gearbox and transmission parts to handle such power? Who assured you your engine can endure this kind of performance? You might have just reduced the lifespan of your truck significantly.

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ReaConPl4yZ
Junior Member
34
04-20-2021, 09:04 AM
#8
Yes, the manufacturer reduced the engine's output to match an existing trans, just enough to keep it functional but not powerful enough for extra power. This is similar to what happens with the CPU here. The truck now delivers 1670ft/lbs of torque after all modifications, which is a noticeable improvement over before. In electronics and computing, people can reprogram or swap components to suit their needs. This trend continues in tech circles, especially among overclockers who share insights on chip designs. New EULAs are pushing universities to replace their own GPUs with more costly commercial models for better performance. It seems the focus is increasingly on profit rather than genuine performance gains. Many feel this is driven by greed, leading to unnecessary restrictions and higher costs for consumers.
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ReaConPl4yZ
04-20-2021, 09:04 AM #8

Yes, the manufacturer reduced the engine's output to match an existing trans, just enough to keep it functional but not powerful enough for extra power. This is similar to what happens with the CPU here. The truck now delivers 1670ft/lbs of torque after all modifications, which is a noticeable improvement over before. In electronics and computing, people can reprogram or swap components to suit their needs. This trend continues in tech circles, especially among overclockers who share insights on chip designs. New EULAs are pushing universities to replace their own GPUs with more costly commercial models for better performance. It seems the focus is increasingly on profit rather than genuine performance gains. Many feel this is driven by greed, leading to unnecessary restrictions and higher costs for consumers.

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Fredster79566
Junior Member
38
04-22-2021, 03:13 PM
#9
Purchase the commercial that suits your needs. Construct it yourself and follow your preferences. It's not advisable to overclock a laptop; they become too hot quickly and can melt. Help me, I'm melting too. You're lucky.
If you have a dedicated GPU, you might consider replacing it with a more powerful one.
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Fredster79566
04-22-2021, 03:13 PM #9

Purchase the commercial that suits your needs. Construct it yourself and follow your preferences. It's not advisable to overclock a laptop; they become too hot quickly and can melt. Help me, I'm melting too. You're lucky.
If you have a dedicated GPU, you might consider replacing it with a more powerful one.

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BadMemory
Member
206
04-22-2021, 10:31 PM
#10
I would have designed a desktop, but my current situation fits better with a laptop. I already own a work laptop that I can sell for 300-400 dollars, which would cover the cost of a new one—though that wouldn’t apply if I switched to a desktop. I also possess software for work costing around 160 dollars per year, something I’d need to purchase and install on the new desktop, whereas with the laptop I simply replace it.

I purchased a Dell 7577 for approximately 800 dollars (7700hq/16gb/1060 6gb/256nvme/1tb hdd/tb3). Building a desktop with the same components would likely cost me more than the original price, especially considering the limitations of laptop power throttling and the higher GPU prices.

In the end, just because I bought a laptop doesn’t mean it’s ideal for someone like me to be disadvantaged by manufacturers or their restrictive system settings. That’s why I back the idea of right-to-repair legislation—any product you own should give you control over its use. It’s unethical and potentially harmful for manufacturers to lock down systems this way.
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BadMemory
04-22-2021, 10:31 PM #10

I would have designed a desktop, but my current situation fits better with a laptop. I already own a work laptop that I can sell for 300-400 dollars, which would cover the cost of a new one—though that wouldn’t apply if I switched to a desktop. I also possess software for work costing around 160 dollars per year, something I’d need to purchase and install on the new desktop, whereas with the laptop I simply replace it.

I purchased a Dell 7577 for approximately 800 dollars (7700hq/16gb/1060 6gb/256nvme/1tb hdd/tb3). Building a desktop with the same components would likely cost me more than the original price, especially considering the limitations of laptop power throttling and the higher GPU prices.

In the end, just because I bought a laptop doesn’t mean it’s ideal for someone like me to be disadvantaged by manufacturers or their restrictive system settings. That’s why I back the idea of right-to-repair legislation—any product you own should give you control over its use. It’s unethical and potentially harmful for manufacturers to lock down systems this way.

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