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1700x safe overclock?

1700x safe overclock?

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damayi_
Junior Member
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10-24-2018, 01:46 PM
#1
So I'm running this system
Ryzen 7 1700x
Wraith prism
ASRock AB350 pro 4
RX 580 8gb. Depending how much I continue to use my PC to game, I may upgrade this later
16gb crucial ballistix ddr4 3000
Cooler master mb511
PowerSpec 750 watt bronze from Microcenter(seems to work well I think it's rated about 62 amps on a single 12v which I'm thinking is overkill)
I purchased the wraith prism second hand to replace a different air cooler I'd been using.
Applied fresh Arctic silver 5.
Went in bios, set speed to 3800mhz, disabled all power saving, and set voltage to 1.35. As I understand, 3.8 was the max turbo core.
It passed Intel burn test with a max temp of 74C when it was under 99% load. 69C in cinebench r20.
From what I'm reading, 75 is the max safe temp for these. So I'm thinking that I'll just leave it here. Should allow a couple more games, and more later when I get a better gpu. Figure I'll use this to hold me over until ryzen 4000 comes out.
For reference, my friend with a stock 2700x benched his system on cinebench which shows him just behind mine with the overclock. Thoughts? Just making sure this is a safe overclock/temperature. My thoughts are yes, but of course many of you know more about overclocking than I do.
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damayi_
10-24-2018, 01:46 PM #1

So I'm running this system
Ryzen 7 1700x
Wraith prism
ASRock AB350 pro 4
RX 580 8gb. Depending how much I continue to use my PC to game, I may upgrade this later
16gb crucial ballistix ddr4 3000
Cooler master mb511
PowerSpec 750 watt bronze from Microcenter(seems to work well I think it's rated about 62 amps on a single 12v which I'm thinking is overkill)
I purchased the wraith prism second hand to replace a different air cooler I'd been using.
Applied fresh Arctic silver 5.
Went in bios, set speed to 3800mhz, disabled all power saving, and set voltage to 1.35. As I understand, 3.8 was the max turbo core.
It passed Intel burn test with a max temp of 74C when it was under 99% load. 69C in cinebench r20.
From what I'm reading, 75 is the max safe temp for these. So I'm thinking that I'll just leave it here. Should allow a couple more games, and more later when I get a better gpu. Figure I'll use this to hold me over until ryzen 4000 comes out.
For reference, my friend with a stock 2700x benched his system on cinebench which shows him just behind mine with the overclock. Thoughts? Just making sure this is a safe overclock/temperature. My thoughts are yes, but of course many of you know more about overclocking than I do.

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1bladesilver
Junior Member
9
10-24-2018, 08:17 PM
#2
You've got the wrong motherboard and CPU cooler for any serious overclocking. You're seeing impressively good temperatures, with a TjMax of 90°C and a "safe" temperature of around that. Keep an eye on your VRM—it's not built to handle much extra power. That's probably your biggest issue.
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1bladesilver
10-24-2018, 08:17 PM #2

You've got the wrong motherboard and CPU cooler for any serious overclocking. You're seeing impressively good temperatures, with a TjMax of 90°C and a "safe" temperature of around that. Keep an eye on your VRM—it's not built to handle much extra power. That's probably your biggest issue.

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eojeoj1
Member
168
10-26-2018, 05:03 AM
#3
Looking online, I'm checking the stock voltage on that CPU. I might increase it back to 1.325 to test stability and see if temperatures drop slightly. I'm not aiming for extreme overclocking—just enough to keep it steady until the 4000 series arrives in about a year.
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eojeoj1
10-26-2018, 05:03 AM #3

Looking online, I'm checking the stock voltage on that CPU. I might increase it back to 1.325 to test stability and see if temperatures drop slightly. I'm not aiming for extreme overclocking—just enough to keep it steady until the 4000 series arrives in about a year.

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VebbiHD
Member
209
10-26-2018, 05:45 AM
#4
There isn't a fixed 'stock' voltage because normal operation requires the voltage to fluctuate as intended. However, when the Ryzen 1000 was released, AMD stated that sustained operation should ideally not exceed 1.425V, while normal conditions should stay around 1.45V. This guidance was meant for those who wanted to push performance further.

Most users kept the voltage below 1.375V during overclocking attempts. Yet certain motherboards struggle to deliver consistent power at such low levels when stressed with high-frequency overclocks (around 4.0Ghz), which is why adjusting the upper limit becomes crucial. With a 3-phase VRM design, stable output under load isn't guaranteed, so you might need to adjust the higher voltage side. If the VRM overheats, simply adding more airflow can help.

It's also vital to use the correct voltage measurement method—STI2 TFN as listed in HWInfo64. For example, I tested my 1700 at 1.4125V for about two years under heavy loads (3.95Ghz), starting with a B350M and later a B450M. It remained stable during prime95 tasks and long h.264 video rendering sessions that kept temperatures in the 80s. This setup performed reliably until I upgraded to the 3700X model.

AMD has set maximum safe temperatures for the 1700X at 95°C, as detailed on their website.
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VebbiHD
10-26-2018, 05:45 AM #4

There isn't a fixed 'stock' voltage because normal operation requires the voltage to fluctuate as intended. However, when the Ryzen 1000 was released, AMD stated that sustained operation should ideally not exceed 1.425V, while normal conditions should stay around 1.45V. This guidance was meant for those who wanted to push performance further.

Most users kept the voltage below 1.375V during overclocking attempts. Yet certain motherboards struggle to deliver consistent power at such low levels when stressed with high-frequency overclocks (around 4.0Ghz), which is why adjusting the upper limit becomes crucial. With a 3-phase VRM design, stable output under load isn't guaranteed, so you might need to adjust the higher voltage side. If the VRM overheats, simply adding more airflow can help.

It's also vital to use the correct voltage measurement method—STI2 TFN as listed in HWInfo64. For example, I tested my 1700 at 1.4125V for about two years under heavy loads (3.95Ghz), starting with a B350M and later a B450M. It remained stable during prime95 tasks and long h.264 video rendering sessions that kept temperatures in the 80s. This setup performed reliably until I upgraded to the 3700X model.

AMD has set maximum safe temperatures for the 1700X at 95°C, as detailed on their website.

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Cyanstrophic
Senior Member
668
10-26-2018, 07:23 AM
#5
That's good to hear. I'll keep an eye on things and see if I can push further. At 3.8ghz I'm satisfied with the performance. In Cinebench R20 it came up just ahead of my friend's stock 2700x, which was a nice result for me.
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Cyanstrophic
10-26-2018, 07:23 AM #5

That's good to hear. I'll keep an eye on things and see if I can push further. At 3.8ghz I'm satisfied with the performance. In Cinebench R20 it came up just ahead of my friend's stock 2700x, which was a nice result for me.

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FluffehDaDino
Junior Member
14
10-26-2018, 08:49 AM
#6
This could be a fun question, but I still have some Christmas cash. Should I take this board? I saw one open box at Microcenter for around 68 dollars.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5102...otherboard
The VRM numbers looked promising, and the voltage seemed higher than expected.
What do you think about the Asus ROG Strix B450-F gaming board?
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FluffehDaDino
10-26-2018, 08:49 AM #6

This could be a fun question, but I still have some Christmas cash. Should I take this board? I saw one open box at Microcenter for around 68 dollars.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5102...otherboard
The VRM numbers looked promising, and the voltage seemed higher than expected.
What do you think about the Asus ROG Strix B450-F gaming board?

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Ronere
Member
66
10-30-2018, 04:52 AM
#7
I don't believe it provides anything superior to your current setup. Be careful with all those inductors—it's just a 4 phase VRM with parallel inductors meant to mislead. The FETs for one full VCore phase aren't even mounted on a heatsink. While your B350m Pro 4 has a 3 phase VRM, it features a robust design with four FETs (two on each side) per phase, all housed in well-finned heatsinks to maintain cooling. I'm fairly certain the ROG Strix B450-F Gaming is similar to the Aorus M, using parallel inductors and three FETs per phase. However, in this model all VCore FETs are protected by heatsinks. Still, I think it won't significantly improve performance beyond what you already have. You'd need to weigh whether appearance or board characteristics justify the purchase.
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Ronere
10-30-2018, 04:52 AM #7

I don't believe it provides anything superior to your current setup. Be careful with all those inductors—it's just a 4 phase VRM with parallel inductors meant to mislead. The FETs for one full VCore phase aren't even mounted on a heatsink. While your B350m Pro 4 has a 3 phase VRM, it features a robust design with four FETs (two on each side) per phase, all housed in well-finned heatsinks to maintain cooling. I'm fairly certain the ROG Strix B450-F Gaming is similar to the Aorus M, using parallel inductors and three FETs per phase. However, in this model all VCore FETs are protected by heatsinks. Still, I think it won't significantly improve performance beyond what you already have. You'd need to weigh whether appearance or board characteristics justify the purchase.

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linkfung
Junior Member
12
11-03-2018, 10:40 PM
#8
Good deal. Sounds like I'm set for a little while anyway then. I have been wanting to play the new Jedi game. Maybe now is a good time to purchase lol.
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linkfung
11-03-2018, 10:40 PM #8

Good deal. Sounds like I'm set for a little while anyway then. I have been wanting to play the new Jedi game. Maybe now is a good time to purchase lol.

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Deixid
Junior Member
47
11-04-2018, 06:57 PM
#9
So there are some minor adjustments made. The clock speed remains unchanged, but the voltage was reduced to 1.325. The readings from cpuid and hwmonitor are as follows: CPU max temperature is 69°C (idle around 32°C), main board max is 26°C. The voltages per hwmonitor show CPU VCore at 1.312, VPPM at 2.544, AVCC at 3.328, 3VCC at 3.328, TMPIN5 at 53, TMPIN6 at 26, and TMPIN3 at 40. Voltages again: 12v at 12.302, VDDR_SOC at 1.104, VIN7 at 0.944, VDDP at 0.280, 1.8v at 1.864, VIN11 at 1.272, 5v at 5.088. The chipset is 1.072. I’m not certain about all the sensors, but with a max package temperature of 1.325 volts at 3.8GHz, performance drops to 69°C. Overall, it’s fairly satisfactory at 3.8GHz, though it seems this CPU might have a bit more room for improvement. It didn’t like 1.3 volts and experienced a hard freeze during an Intel burn test. At 1.325, it successfully passed all 10 Intel burn test passes at 99% usage across all cores. Thoughts?
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Deixid
11-04-2018, 06:57 PM #9

So there are some minor adjustments made. The clock speed remains unchanged, but the voltage was reduced to 1.325. The readings from cpuid and hwmonitor are as follows: CPU max temperature is 69°C (idle around 32°C), main board max is 26°C. The voltages per hwmonitor show CPU VCore at 1.312, VPPM at 2.544, AVCC at 3.328, 3VCC at 3.328, TMPIN5 at 53, TMPIN6 at 26, and TMPIN3 at 40. Voltages again: 12v at 12.302, VDDR_SOC at 1.104, VIN7 at 0.944, VDDP at 0.280, 1.8v at 1.864, VIN11 at 1.272, 5v at 5.088. The chipset is 1.072. I’m not certain about all the sensors, but with a max package temperature of 1.325 volts at 3.8GHz, performance drops to 69°C. Overall, it’s fairly satisfactory at 3.8GHz, though it seems this CPU might have a bit more room for improvement. It didn’t like 1.3 volts and experienced a hard freeze during an Intel burn test. At 1.325, it successfully passed all 10 Intel burn test passes at 99% usage across all cores. Thoughts?

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snuttisnutti
Member
206
11-04-2018, 07:08 PM
#10
Also tested Cinebench R20, receiving a score only from Windows Defender with 3793 multi-threaded activity. One core scored 385.
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snuttisnutti
11-04-2018, 07:08 PM #10

Also tested Cinebench R20, receiving a score only from Windows Defender with 3793 multi-threaded activity. One core scored 385.

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