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10gbit connection for two devices

10gbit connection for two devices

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Gusstert
Junior Member
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10-27-2016, 09:06 AM
#1
I really wish my server and main PC were connected to the same network using 10Gbps. Back when I had a fiber modem and a 5Gbps line, I used SFP+ connectors for maximum speed. I converted everything to fiber and set up an SFP+ 10Gbe adapter in my main system. In my current home, I downgraded to a slow 1Gbps connection, but the speeds were still sufficient for streaming my server’s Steam library instead of my personal PC.

I currently have 4 TB of SSD storage on top of my older 30TB drives. The internal setup I have in place works fine, and I’d like to keep it. I plan to run a router from my fiber provider that connects to an EdgeRouter ER4 with an SFP port. This will link to a 16-port Unifi 150W PoE switch, which powers a few cameras, a NANO HD, and an IN-WALL HD for Wi-Fi. Everything seems to function properly now.

All wall cables have been upgraded from 5E to Cat6 STP since I had a large 100-meter roll. The cabling should be fine. My goal is simply to add a 10Gbe connection between a computer on the second floor and my server in the technical room. This was the most affordable option I found.

I considered using a MicroTik CRS305 ASUS 10G card for my main PC (Base-T 10GTEK SFP+), a 10GbE SFP+ adapter for the server, a 10GbE Unifi cable for the server to the MicroTik, and another from the 16-port Unifi to the MicroTik. This would create a hub setup, with PoE coming from the Unifi 16 port via an SFP+ converter.

I’m curious if there’s anything even cheaper than this setup. It looks a bit overpriced at 5Gbps, but it seems solid for what I need.
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Gusstert
10-27-2016, 09:06 AM #1

I really wish my server and main PC were connected to the same network using 10Gbps. Back when I had a fiber modem and a 5Gbps line, I used SFP+ connectors for maximum speed. I converted everything to fiber and set up an SFP+ 10Gbe adapter in my main system. In my current home, I downgraded to a slow 1Gbps connection, but the speeds were still sufficient for streaming my server’s Steam library instead of my personal PC.

I currently have 4 TB of SSD storage on top of my older 30TB drives. The internal setup I have in place works fine, and I’d like to keep it. I plan to run a router from my fiber provider that connects to an EdgeRouter ER4 with an SFP port. This will link to a 16-port Unifi 150W PoE switch, which powers a few cameras, a NANO HD, and an IN-WALL HD for Wi-Fi. Everything seems to function properly now.

All wall cables have been upgraded from 5E to Cat6 STP since I had a large 100-meter roll. The cabling should be fine. My goal is simply to add a 10Gbe connection between a computer on the second floor and my server in the technical room. This was the most affordable option I found.

I considered using a MicroTik CRS305 ASUS 10G card for my main PC (Base-T 10GTEK SFP+), a 10GbE SFP+ adapter for the server, a 10GbE Unifi cable for the server to the MicroTik, and another from the 16-port Unifi to the MicroTik. This would create a hub setup, with PoE coming from the Unifi 16 port via an SFP+ converter.

I’m curious if there’s anything even cheaper than this setup. It looks a bit overpriced at 5Gbps, but it seems solid for what I need.

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RulwenJr
Posting Freak
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10-27-2016, 09:23 AM
#2
How the other side lives and I'm thinking I'm lucky since I have about 70Mbit/s while others have it really poor and around less than 2Mbit/s.
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RulwenJr
10-27-2016, 09:23 AM #2

How the other side lives and I'm thinking I'm lucky since I have about 70Mbit/s while others have it really poor and around less than 2Mbit/s.

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Fireano
Junior Member
45
10-29-2016, 10:11 PM
#3
I'd opt for fiber. For residential applications, you can locate reasonably affordable transceivers and fiber cables. You might also explore budget-friendly SFP+ NICs such as the Mellanox Connect X-2 cards. These typically operate more efficiently than high-speed 10GBASE-T NICs.
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Fireano
10-29-2016, 10:11 PM #3

I'd opt for fiber. For residential applications, you can locate reasonably affordable transceivers and fiber cables. You might also explore budget-friendly SFP+ NICs such as the Mellanox Connect X-2 cards. These typically operate more efficiently than high-speed 10GBASE-T NICs.

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0_x
Member
157
10-30-2016, 02:36 AM
#4
10gbase-sr refers to Ethernet, likely meaning lower power consumption than 10gbase-t. You might find cheaper transceivers on eBay if you're willing to search. I prefer single mode, though that's just my opinion. The cable supports faster speeds, and the OS2 cables are more affordable too. Just mentioning you can get transceivers.
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0_x
10-30-2016, 02:36 AM #4

10gbase-sr refers to Ethernet, likely meaning lower power consumption than 10gbase-t. You might find cheaper transceivers on eBay if you're willing to search. I prefer single mode, though that's just my opinion. The cable supports faster speeds, and the OS2 cables are more affordable too. Just mentioning you can get transceivers.

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Toasters4lyfe
Member
51
10-31-2016, 06:52 PM
#5
Hmm, Ethernet and copper cables are different things. I'm looking at how much heat the Intel X540 generates when connected to SFP+ with fiber transceivers. The controllers on copper-based NICs seem to produce a lot more waste heat. If you don't dig deep, I notice companies like HP marketing them for over $100 each. Still, I'm open to suggestions if I found some newer, cheaper SFP+ NICs.
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Toasters4lyfe
10-31-2016, 06:52 PM #5

Hmm, Ethernet and copper cables are different things. I'm looking at how much heat the Intel X540 generates when connected to SFP+ with fiber transceivers. The controllers on copper-based NICs seem to produce a lot more waste heat. If you don't dig deep, I notice companies like HP marketing them for over $100 each. Still, I'm open to suggestions if I found some newer, cheaper SFP+ NICs.

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bengalwatcher
Posting Freak
801
10-31-2016, 09:48 PM
#6
Ethernet supports various data types, with most modern fiber optics functioning as Ethernet. Cat cables demand higher heat compared to fiber or DAC cables, though newer 10G base-t connections are using less power than older 540 series models.
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bengalwatcher
10-31-2016, 09:48 PM #6

Ethernet supports various data types, with most modern fiber optics functioning as Ethernet. Cat cables demand higher heat compared to fiber or DAC cables, though newer 10G base-t connections are using less power than older 540 series models.

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DevilDoggy657
Senior Member
530
10-31-2016, 10:59 PM
#7
I own a 150/10 service with a 1 TB limit. Calling a 1 Gbps fiber connection terrible is similar to Bill Gates using $100 bills as toilet paper.
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DevilDoggy657
10-31-2016, 10:59 PM #7

I own a 150/10 service with a 1 TB limit. Calling a 1 Gbps fiber connection terrible is similar to Bill Gates using $100 bills as toilet paper.

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LuckyHippo1
Member
67
11-01-2016, 03:33 AM
#8
I lived in an area offering 5 gigabits per second speeds, and I’m using a basic router for this setup. Just thought it’s interesting that an edge router can handle 5 gigabits too—this project is definitely not the most advanced option available. A cheaper alternative would be an entry-level router.
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LuckyHippo1
11-01-2016, 03:33 AM #8

I lived in an area offering 5 gigabits per second speeds, and I’m using a basic router for this setup. Just thought it’s interesting that an edge router can handle 5 gigabits too—this project is definitely not the most advanced option available. A cheaper alternative would be an entry-level router.

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MECrageman
Member
180
11-08-2016, 07:08 AM
#9
This Danish firm is gigabit. Their website shows pricing details clearly. Five gigabits monthly comes to around 499 dollars, which is about 80 dollars. However, purchasing a specialized router with SPF+ connections and no copper RJ45 ports costs roughly 10,000 dkkr (1800 dollars). You receive a free signup when you buy the 299 dkkr model because it’s a stock setup. If you negotiate well, you might secure a 10/10 gigabit connection. The exciting part about gigabit is its flexibility—you can choose your own router or modem, and they support it. With my current setup from altibox, I’m accepting a subpar router despite having full control to switch it into bridge mode. I pay the same monthly rate as when I signed up for 5/5 in my previous home. Monthly expenses have led me to buy an XG16, using Unifi equipment and running SFP+ cards on servers. I’m currently running Ethernet for two Raspberry Pi 4s that operate 3D printers, but I might relocate the server to a location with 10gbit fiber. I’m considering a MikroTik 10gbit switch as a potential upgrade.
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MECrageman
11-08-2016, 07:08 AM #9

This Danish firm is gigabit. Their website shows pricing details clearly. Five gigabits monthly comes to around 499 dollars, which is about 80 dollars. However, purchasing a specialized router with SPF+ connections and no copper RJ45 ports costs roughly 10,000 dkkr (1800 dollars). You receive a free signup when you buy the 299 dkkr model because it’s a stock setup. If you negotiate well, you might secure a 10/10 gigabit connection. The exciting part about gigabit is its flexibility—you can choose your own router or modem, and they support it. With my current setup from altibox, I’m accepting a subpar router despite having full control to switch it into bridge mode. I pay the same monthly rate as when I signed up for 5/5 in my previous home. Monthly expenses have led me to buy an XG16, using Unifi equipment and running SFP+ cards on servers. I’m currently running Ethernet for two Raspberry Pi 4s that operate 3D printers, but I might relocate the server to a location with 10gbit fiber. I’m considering a MikroTik 10gbit switch as a potential upgrade.

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nicholast1112
Member
68
11-10-2016, 10:18 AM
#10
It seems the downgrade wasn’t clear because your setup lacked a router capable of handling at least 5 gigabits. There’s a steep learning curve involved, but I fully support it.
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nicholast1112
11-10-2016, 10:18 AM #10

It seems the downgrade wasn’t clear because your setup lacked a router capable of handling at least 5 gigabits. There’s a steep learning curve involved, but I fully support it.

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